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[haiko]

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[Empat]

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Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000004 in 32-bit code (0x004a5c34).
Register dump:
CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
EIP:004a5c34 ESP:00314afc EBP:00314b70 EFLAGS:00010246(  R- --  I  Z- -P- )
EAX:00000000 EBX:004a5be0 ECX:00314b08 EDX:00000000
ESI:02c9b4a0 EDI:02c9b4a0
Stack dump:
0x00314afc:  0000003c 00314b08 00315468 7bc77cfb
0x00314b0c:  7e921000 00000005 00314b7c 00314bc8
0x00314b1c:  7e8d5524 00314b3c 00000000 00000000
0x00314b2c:  7bc3714b 00000000 00000000 00000000
0x00314b3c:  7bc37239 00000000 008436c4 00050048
0x00314b4c:  00050048 00000000 00010290 00000008
Backtrace:
=>0 0x004a5c34 in nero (+0xa5c34) (0x00314b70)
  1 0x0074493e in nero (+0x34493d) (0x00314be8)
  2 0x0074563a in nero (+0x345639) (0x00314c10)
  3 0x0074558d in nero (+0x34558c) (0x00314c2c)
  4 0x0073e5a6 in nero (+0x33e5a5) (0x00314c44)
  5 0x0074548f in nero (+0x34548e) (0x00314ce8)
  6 0x007444f5 in nero (+0x3444f4) (0x00314d08)
  7 0x007433bb in nero (+0x3433ba) (0x00314d68)
  8 0x007435d7 in nero (+0x3435d6) (0x00314d88)
  9 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00314db8)
  10 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00314e08)
  11 0x7e8e4169 in user32 (+0xa4168) (0x003152d8)
  12 0x7e8e6426 in user32 (+0xa6425) (0x00315328)
  13 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x00315388)
  14 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x003153f8)
  15 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x00315448)
  16 0x7e5baaf1 in comctl32 (+0x2aaf0) (0x00315488)
  17 0x7e5d5df5 in comctl32 (+0x45df4) (0x00315578)
  18 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x003155b8)
  19 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00315608)
  20 0x7e8e5526 in user32 (+0xa5525) (0x00315ab8)
  21 0x7e8e6558 CallWindowProcA+0xc7() in user32 (0x00315afc)
  22 0x00743e19 in nero (+0x343e18) (0x00315b1c)
  23 0x0074450c in nero (+0x34450b) (0x00315b38)
  24 0x007433bb in nero (+0x3433ba) (0x00315b98)
  25 0x007435d7 in nero (+0x3435d6) (0x00315bb8)
  26 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00315be8)
  27 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00315c38)
  28 0x7e8e4169 in user32 (+0xa4168) (0x00316108)
  29 0x7e8e6426 in user32 (+0xa6425) (0x00316158)
  30 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x003161b8)
  31 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x00316228)
  32 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x00316278)
  33 0x7e8e1369 in user32 (+0xa1368) (0x003163a8)
  34 0x7e8de9d7 SetWindowPos+0xc6() in user32 (0x00316438)
  35 0x7e8df38a MoveWindow+0xc9() in user32 (0x003164a8)
  36 0x00747977 in nero (+0x347976) (0x003164d0)
  37 0x004fd9b0 in nero (+0xfd9af) (0x00316568)
  38 0x007444f5 in nero (+0x3444f4) (0x00316588)
  39 0x007433bb in nero (+0x3433ba) (0x003165e8)
  40 0x007435d7 in nero (+0x3435d6) (0x00316608)
  41 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00316638)
  42 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00316688)
  43 0x7e8e4169 in user32 (+0xa4168) (0x00316b58)
  44 0x7e8e6426 in user32 (+0xa6425) (0x00316ba8)
  45 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x00316c08)
  46 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x00316c78)
  47 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x00316cc8)
  48 0x7e86fb72 in user32 (+0x2fb71) (0x00316d78)
  49 0x7e8707c9 DefWindowProcA+0x1d8() in user32 (0x00316de8)
  50 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00316e28)
  51 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00316e78)
  52 0x7e8e64eb CallWindowProcA+0x5a() in user32 (0x00316ebc)
  53 0x00743e19 in nero (+0x343e18) (0x00316edc)
  54 0x0074450c in nero (+0x34450b) (0x00316ef8)
  55 0x007433bb in nero (+0x3433ba) (0x00316f58)
  56 0x007435d7 in nero (+0x3435d6) (0x00316f78)
  57 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00316fa8)
  58 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00316ff8)
  59 0x7e8e4169 in user32 (+0xa4168) (0x003174c8)
  60 0x7e8e6426 in user32 (+0xa6425) (0x00317518)
  61 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x00317578)
  62 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x003175e8)
  63 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x00317638)
  64 0x7e8e1369 in user32 (+0xa1368) (0x00317768)
  65 0x7e8e2390 EndDeferWindowPos+0x8f() in user32 (0x003177c8)
  66 0x0075820d in nero (+0x35820c) (0x00317840)
  67 0x00757d02 in nero (+0x357d01) (0x003178c8)
  68 0x007444f5 in nero (+0x3444f4) (0x003178e8)
  69 0x007433bb in nero (+0x3433ba) (0x00317948)
  70 0x007435d7 in nero (+0x3435d6) (0x00317968)
  71 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00317998)
  72 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x003179e8)
  73 0x7e8e4169 in user32 (+0xa4168) (0x00317eb8)
  74 0x7e8e6426 in user32 (+0xa6425) (0x00317f08)
  75 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x00317f68)
  76 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x00317fd8)
  77 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x00318028)
  78 0x7e86fb72 in user32 (+0x2fb71) (0x003180d8)
  79 0x7e8707c9 DefWindowProcA+0x1d8() in user32 (0x00318148)
  80 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00318188)
  81 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x003181d8)
  82 0x7e8e64eb CallWindowProcA+0x5a() in user32 (0x0031821c)
  83 0x00743e19 in nero (+0x343e18) (0x0031823c)
  84 0x0074450c in nero (+0x34450b) (0x00318258)
  85 0x007433bb in nero (+0x3433ba) (0x003182b8)
  86 0x007435d7 in nero (+0x3435d6) (0x003182d8)
  87 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00318308)
  88 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00318358)
  89 0x7e8e4169 in user32 (+0xa4168) (0x00318828)
  90 0x7e8e6426 in user32 (+0xa6425) (0x00318878)
  91 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x003188d8)
  92 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x00318948)
  93 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x00318998)
  94 0x7e8e1369 in user32 (+0xa1368) (0x00318ac8)
  95 0x7e8e2390 EndDeferWindowPos+0x8f() in user32 (0x00318b28)
  96 0x00745296 in nero (+0x345295) (0x00318b68)
  97 0x00762ed9 in nero (+0x362ed8) (0x00318ba8)
  98 0x00762f7b in nero (+0x362f7a) (0x00318c48)
  99 0x007444f5 in nero (+0x3444f4) (0x00318c68)
  100 0x007433bb in nero (+0x3433ba) (0x00318cc8)
  101 0x007435d7 in nero (+0x3435d6) (0x00318ce8)
  102 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00318d18)
  103 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00318d68)
  104 0x7e8e4169 in user32 (+0xa4168) (0x00319238)
  105 0x7e8e6426 in user32 (+0xa6425) (0x00319288)
  106 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x003192e8)
  107 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x00319358)
  108 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x003193a8)
  109 0x7e86fb72 in user32 (+0x2fb71) (0x00319458)
  110 0x7e8707c9 DefWindowProcA+0x1d8() in user32 (0x003194c8)
  111 0x7e895fe4 DefMDIChildProcA+0x113() in user32 (0x00319538)
  112 0x007603b8 in nero (+0x3603b7) (0x00319578)
  113 0x007433bb in nero (+0x3433ba) (0x003195d8)
  114 0x007435d7 in nero (+0x3435d6) (0x003195f8)
  115 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00319628)
  116 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x00319678)
  117 0x7e8e4169 in user32 (+0xa4168) (0x00319b48)
  118 0x7e8e6426 in user32 (+0xa6425) (0x00319b98)
  119 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x00319bf8)
  120 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x00319c68)
  121 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x00319cb8)
  122 0x7e8e1369 in user32 (+0xa1368) (0x00319de8)
  123 0x7e8de9d7 SetWindowPos+0xc6() in user32 (0x00319e78)
  124 0x7e8df38a MoveWindow+0xc9() in user32 (0x00319ee8)
  125 0x7e89786e in user32 (+0x5786d) (0x00319f98)
  126 0x7e8e380e in user32 (+0xa380d) (0x00319fc8)
  127 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x00319ff8)
  128 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x0031a048)
  129 0x7e8e6383 in user32 (+0xa6382) (0x0031a098)
  130 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x0031a0f8)
  131 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x0031a168)
  132 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x0031a1b8)
  133 0x7e86fb72 in user32 (+0x2fb71) (0x0031a268)
  134 0x7e870ca5 DefWindowProcW+0xc4() in user32 (0x0031a2d8)
  135 0x7e896b7c in user32 (+0x56b7b) (0x0031a388)
  136 0x7e8e380e in user32 (+0xa380d) (0x0031a3b8)
  137 0x7e8e34ea WINPROC_wrapper+0x19() in user32 (0x0031a3e8)
  138 0x7e8e3c26 in user32 (+0xa3c25) (0x0031a438)
  139 0x7e8e6383 in user32 (+0xa6382) (0x0031a488)
  140 0x7e8a519d in user32 (+0x6519c) (0x0031a4e8)
  141 0x7e8aca46 in user32 (+0x6ca45) (0x0031a558)
  142 0x7e8accd9 SendMessageW+0x58() in user32 (0x0031a5a8)
  143 0x7e8e1369 in user32 (+0xa1368) (0x0031a6d8)
  144 0x7e8de9d7 SetWindowPos+0xc6() in user32 (0x0031a768)
0x004a5c34: pushl 0x4(%eax)
Modules:
Module Address Debug info Name (143 modules)
PE   3d0000-  3f3000 Deferred        drivelocker
PE   400000- 23e9000 Export          nero
PE 23f0000- 2424000 Deferred        cdcopy
PE 2cb0000- 2f17000 Deferred        advrcntr
PE 38a0000- 38b9000 Deferred        nehdblkaccess
PE 3db0000- 3dcb000 Deferred        audiopluginmgr
PE 3dd0000- 3fc3000 Deferred        aac
PE 3fd0000- 418a000 Deferred        aacenc32
PE 4190000- 430e000 Deferred        neroipp
PE 4420000- 45c5000 Deferred        mp3pro
PE 46e0000- 46f4000 Deferred        aiff
PE 4700000- 4719000 Deferred        wav
PE 4720000- 47af000 Deferred        mp3pp
PE 47b0000- 4817000 Deferred        lame_enc
PE 4a40000- 4ac4000 Deferred        msa
PE 4ce0000- 4cef000 Deferred        defconvertor
PE 6430000- 65c2000 Deferred        ogg
PE 66e0000- 66f6000 Deferred        mp3pro_hlp
PE 7260000- 7299000 Deferred        wmasf
PE 8530000- 872d000 Deferred        wmvcore
PE 10000000-10019000 Deferred        nersdb
PE 15000000-15022000 Deferred        image
PE 18000000-18030000 Deferred        isofs
PE 20000000-20049000 Deferred        neroerr
PE 22000000-22044000 Deferred        newtrf
PE 26000000-26018000 Deferred        mp3pro_dmo
PE 73dd0000-73ec2000 Deferred        mfc42
ELF 7b800000-7ba5b000 Deferred        kernel32<elf>
  \-PE 7b810000-7ba5b000 \               kernel32
ELF 7bc00000-7bcdb000 Deferred        ntdll<elf>
  \-PE 7bc10000-7bcdb000 \               ntdll
ELF 7bf00000-7bf04000 Deferred        <wine-loader>
ELF 7ce08000-7cf00000 Deferred        msvcp60<elf>
  \-PE 7ce30000-7cf00000 \               msvcp60
ELF 7d0a4000-7d0e5000 Deferred        usp10<elf>
  \-PE 7d0b0000-7d0e5000 \               usp10
ELF 7d158000-7d200000 Deferred        msvcrt<elf>
  \-PE 7d170000-7d200000 \               msvcrt
ELF 7d30b000-7d333000 Deferred        mlang<elf>
  \-PE 7d310000-7d333000 \               mlang
ELF 7d333000-7d35b000 Deferred        mpr<elf>
  \-PE 7d340000-7d35b000 \               mpr
ELF 7d35b000-7d3d7000 Deferred        wininet<elf>
  \-PE 7d360000-7d3d7000 \               wininet
ELF 7d53c000-7d561000 Deferred        imm32<elf>
  \-PE 7d540000-7d561000 \               imm32
ELF 7d561000-7d56a000 Deferred        librt.so.1
ELF 7d56a000-7d572000 Deferred        libffi.so.6
ELF 7d572000-7d58a000 Deferred        libresolv.so.2
ELF 7d58a000-7d5d5000 Deferred        libdbus-1.so.3
ELF 7d5d5000-7d611000 Deferred        libp11-kit.so.0
ELF 7d611000-7d625000 Deferred        libtasn1.so.6
ELF 7d625000-7d6ac000 Deferred        libgcrypt.so.11
ELF 7d6ac000-7d6b8000 Deferred        libkrb5support.so.0
ELF 7d6b8000-7d6e8000 Deferred        libk5crypto.so.3
ELF 7d6e8000-7d7a7000 Deferred        libkrb5.so.3
ELF 7d7a7000-7d7b9000 Deferred        libavahi-client.so.3
ELF 7d7b9000-7d7c7000 Deferred        libavahi-common.so.3
ELF 7d7c7000-7d88e000 Deferred        libgnutls.so.26
ELF 7d88e000-7d8d4000 Deferred        libgssapi_krb5.so.2
ELF 7d8d4000-7d941000 Deferred        libcups.so.2
ELF 7d941000-7d967000 Deferred        iphlpapi<elf>
  \-PE 7d950000-7d967000 \               iphlpapi
ELF 7d967000-7d99d000 Deferred        ws2_32<elf>
  \-PE 7d970000-7d99d000 \               ws2_32
ELF 7d99d000-7da88000 Deferred        comdlg32<elf>
  \-PE 7d9a0000-7da88000 \               comdlg32
ELF 7da88000-7dbbe000 Deferred        oleaut32<elf>
  \-PE 7daa0000-7dbbe000 \               oleaut32
ELF 7dc20000-7dc25000 Deferred        libgpg-error.so.0
ELF 7dc3a000-7dc56000 Deferred        wsock32<elf>
  \-PE 7dc40000-7dc56000 \               wsock32
ELF 7dc56000-7dc90000 Deferred        oledlg<elf>
  \-PE 7dc60000-7dc90000 \               oledlg
ELF 7dc90000-7dca4000 Deferred        olepro32<elf>
  \-PE 7dca0000-7dca4000 \               olepro32
ELF 7dca4000-7dce4000 Deferred        winspool<elf>
  \-PE 7dcb0000-7dce4000 \               winspool
ELF 7dce4000-7dd10000 Deferred        msvfw32<elf>
  \-PE 7dcf0000-7dd10000 \               msvfw32
ELF 7dd10000-7dd59000 Deferred        dsound<elf>
  \-PE 7dd20000-7dd59000 \               dsound
ELF 7dd59000-7de4a000 Deferred        quartz<elf>
  \-PE 7dd70000-7de4a000 \               quartz
ELF 7de4a000-7de75000 Deferred        msacm32<elf>
  \-PE 7de50000-7de75000 \               msacm32
ELF 7de75000-7df2f000 Deferred        winmm<elf>
  \-PE 7de80000-7df2f000 \               winmm
ELF 7df2f000-7dfb0000 Deferred        rpcrt4<elf>
  \-PE 7df40000-7dfb0000 \               rpcrt4
ELF 7dfb0000-7e0ec000 Deferred        ole32<elf>
  \-PE 7dfd0000-7e0ec000 \               ole32
ELF 7e10a000-7e141000 Deferred        uxtheme<elf>
  \-PE 7e110000-7e141000 \               uxtheme
ELF 7e141000-7e147000 Deferred        libxfixes.so.3
ELF 7e147000-7e152000 Deferred        libxcursor.so.1
ELF 7e152000-7e162000 Deferred        libxi.so.6
ELF 7e162000-7e166000 Deferred        libxcomposite.so.1
ELF 7e166000-7e171000 Deferred        libxrandr.so.2
ELF 7e171000-7e17c000 Deferred        libxrender.so.1
ELF 7e17c000-7e182000 Deferred        libxxf86vm.so.1
ELF 7e182000-7e186000 Deferred        libxinerama.so.1
ELF 7e186000-7e18d000 Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
ELF 7e18d000-7e191000 Deferred        libxau.so.6
ELF 7e191000-7e1b3000 Deferred        libxcb.so.1
ELF 7e1b3000-7e2e7000 Deferred        libx11.so.6
ELF 7e2e7000-7e2fa000 Deferred        libxext.so.6
ELF 7e2fd000-7e301000 Deferred        libkeyutils.so.1
ELF 7e301000-7e306000 Deferred        libcom_err.so.2
ELF 7e30f000-7e3a1000 Deferred        winex11<elf>
  \-PE 7e320000-7e3a1000 \               winex11
ELF 7e424000-7e44d000 Deferred        libexpat.so.1
ELF 7e44d000-7e488000 Deferred        libfontconfig.so.1
ELF 7e488000-7e4b0000 Deferred        libpng12.so.0
ELF 7e4b0000-7e4ca000 Deferred        libz.so.1
ELF 7e4ca000-7e56a000 Deferred        libfreetype.so.6
ELF 7e57f000-7e686000 Dwarf           comctl32<elf>
  \-PE 7e590000-7e686000 \               comctl32
ELF 7e686000-7e6a0000 Deferred        version<elf>
  \-PE 7e690000-7e6a0000 \               version
ELF 7e6a0000-7e712000 Deferred        advapi32<elf>
  \-PE 7e6b0000-7e712000 \               advapi32
ELF 7e712000-7e82f000 Deferred        gdi32<elf>
  \-PE 7e720000-7e82f000 \               gdi32
ELF 7e82f000-7e989000 Dwarf           user32<elf>
  \-PE 7e840000-7e989000 \               user32
ELF 7e989000-7ea03000 Deferred        shlwapi<elf>
  \-PE 7e9a0000-7ea03000 \               shlwapi
ELF 7ea03000-7ec36000 Deferred        shell32<elf>
  \-PE 7ea10000-7ec36000 \               shell32
ELF 7ec36000-7ec42000 Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
ELF 7ec42000-7ec4e000 Deferred        libnss_nis.so.2
ELF 7ec4e000-7ec67000 Deferred        libnsl.so.1
ELF 7efba000-7f000000 Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF b73e4000-b73ed000 Deferred        libnss_compat.so.2
ELF b73ef000-b75a0000 Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF b75a0000-b75a5000 Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF b75a5000-b75c1000 Deferred        libpthread.so.0
ELF b75c2000-b75d6000 Deferred        shfolder<elf>
  \-PE b75d0000-b75d6000 \               shfolder
ELF b75d6000-b778b000 Dwarf           libwine.so.1
ELF b778c000-b77ae000 Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
ELF b77b0000-b77b1000 Deferred        [vdso].so
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
0000000e services.exe
0000001d    0
0000001c    0
00000016    0
00000014    0
00000010    0
0000000f    0
00000012 winedevice.exe
0000001b    0
00000018    0
00000017    0
00000013    0
00000019 plugplay.exe
0000001f    0
0000001e    0
0000001a    0
00000020 explorer.exe
00000026    0
00000021    0
00000024 NeroStartSmart.exe
00000029    0
00000028    0
00000025    0
0000002a (D) C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\nero.exe
00000034    0
00000033    0
00000032    0
00000031    0
00000030    0
0000002f    0
0000002b    0 <==
System information:
    Wine build: wine-1.6.2
    Platform: i386
    Host system: Linux
    Host version: 3.19.0-80-generic



Mesaj tekrarı yüzünden mesajınız birleştirildi. Bu mesajın gönderim tarihi : 13 Eylül 2019 - 19:01:02
Arkadaşlar bu sorunsalın galiba temel sebebi, Nero 6 nın cd/dvd sürücüsünü görememesi gibi duruyor. Çünkü o kısma kadar uygulama çalışıyor. Her ne hikmetse destination drive ın textbox kontrolünde image recorder ı görüyor; source drive ın textbox kontrolünde ise herhangi bir drive göremiyor...


Mesaj tekrarı yüzünden mesajınız birleştirildi. Bu mesajın gönderim tarihi : 13 Eylül 2019 - 19:07:09
Bu sorunsal yüzünden neredeyse bir haftadır kabuk değiştirmiş olabilirim ama, bir gün ben de bu Linux' un ustası olacam 

[Empat]

[mention=649152]@haiko[/mention]
Lütfen kısa süre içerisinde üst üste ileti (flood) atmayın.

Bunun yerine daha önce attığınız iletiyi düzenleyin.

Forumda bu konuda yeterli bilgi sahibi olan varsa, bu konuya dahil olur zaten.