[Çözüldü] Bluetooth Açılmıyor

Başlatan tyko, 21 Nisan 2019 - 23:38:34

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tyko

Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS yüklü bilgisayarımda Bluetooth açılmıyor. Ayarlar kısmından Bluetooth sekmesine geldiğimde Bluetooth bulunamadı diyor. Fn tuşu ile açmaya çalışıyorum tepkisiz kalıyor Fn tuşu ile kamera WiFi uçak modu gibi diğer fonksiyonları çalıştırabiliyorum. Bunu nasıl çözebilirim?

Empat

Sorunu anlamamız için daha fazla bilgiye sahip olmamız lazım.

Aşağıdaki komutların çıktılarını buraya, code etiketleri arasında yapıştırır mısınız?

lspci

lsusb

rfkill list

sudo lshw -C network

lsmod

dmesg | egrep 'blue|firm'

sudo systemctl status bluetooth
Everything for me is just Peace - Love - Coding. Also, as they say: I am a programmer, I have no life!

tyko

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PC'yi şimdi açtığımda Bluetooth kendi kendine çözülmüş açıp kapatabiliyorum bu neden olmuş olabilir? Aşağıda çıktıları yinede paylaştım.

DÜZELTME: Bilgisayarı yeniden başlattığımda bluetooth hiç açılmıyor, tekrar başlatınca düzeliyor. Sonrasında bu şekilde kapatıp açmaya devam ettiğimde Bluetooth'ta bir çalışıyor bir çalışmıyor.

lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 DMI2 (rev 07)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 IIO PCI Express Root Port 2a (rev 07)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 IIO PCI Express Root Port 3a in PCI Express Mode (rev 07)
00:05.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Address Map, VTd_Misc, System Management (rev 07)
00:05.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Control Status and Global Errors (rev 07)
00:05.4 PIC: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 I/O APIC (rev 07)
00:11.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset PCI Express Virtual Root Port (rev 06)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset MEI Controller #1 (rev 05)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579V Gigabit Network Connection (rev 06)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 06)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b6)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev b6)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev b6)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b6)
00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset PCI Express Root Port 8 (rev b6)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 06)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a6)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset LPC Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation SATA Controller [RAID mode] (rev 06)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset SMBus Host Controller (rev 06)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104GLM [Quadro K5100M] (rev a1)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)
04:00.0 USB controller: Texas Instruments TUSB73x0 SuperSpeed USB 3.0 xHCI Host Controller (rev 02)
05:00.0 PCI bridge: Texas Instruments XIO2213A/B/XIO2221 PCI Express to PCI Bridge [Cheetah Express] (rev 01)
06:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments XIO2213A/B/XIO2221 IEEE-1394b OHCI Controller [Cheetah Express] (rev 01)
07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 73)
08:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5229 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
ff:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 QPI Link 0 (rev 07)
ff:08.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 QPI Link Reut 0 (rev 07)
ff:08.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 QPI Link Reut 0 (rev 07)
ff:09.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 QPI Link 1 (rev 07)
ff:09.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 QPI Link Reut 1 (rev 07)
ff:09.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 QPI Link Reut 1 (rev 07)
ff:0a.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Power Control Unit 0 (rev 07)
ff:0a.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Power Control Unit 1 (rev 07)
ff:0a.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Power Control Unit 2 (rev 07)
ff:0a.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Power Control Unit 3 (rev 07)
ff:0b.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Interrupt Control Registers (rev 07)
ff:0b.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Semaphore and Scratchpad Configuration Registers (rev 07)
ff:0c.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Unicast Register 0 (rev 07)
ff:0c.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Unicast Register 0 (rev 07)
ff:0c.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Unicast Register 0 (rev 07)
ff:0c.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Unicast Register 0 (rev 07)
ff:0c.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller System Address Decoder 0 (rev 07)
ff:0c.7 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 System Address Decoder (rev 07)
ff:0d.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Unicast Register 0 (rev 07)
ff:0d.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Unicast Register 0 (rev 07)
ff:0d.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Unicast Register 0 (rev 07)
ff:0d.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Unicast Register 0 (rev 07)
ff:0d.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller System Address Decoder 1 (rev 07)
ff:0e.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Processor Home Agent (rev 07)
ff:0e.1 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Processor Home Agent Performance Monitoring (rev 07)
ff:0f.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Registers (rev 07)
ff:0f.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller RAS Registers (rev 07)
ff:0f.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder 0 (rev 07)
ff:0f.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder 1 (rev 07)
ff:0f.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder 2 (rev 07)
ff:0f.5 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder 3 (rev 07)
ff:0f.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder 4 (rev 07)
ff:10.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0-3 Thermal Control 0 (rev 07)
ff:10.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0-3 Thermal Control 1 (rev 07)
ff:10.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller ERROR Registers 0 (rev 07)
ff:10.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller ERROR Registers 1 (rev 07)
ff:10.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0-3 Thermal Control 2 (rev 07)
ff:10.5 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0-3 Thermal Control 3 (rev 07)
ff:10.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller ERROR Registers 2 (rev 07)
ff:10.7 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller ERROR Registers 3 (rev 07)
ff:11.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 DDRIO (rev 07)
ff:13.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 R2PCIe (rev 07)
ff:13.1 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Ring to PCI Express Performance Monitor (rev 07)
ff:13.4 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 QuickPath Interconnect Agent Ring Registers (rev 07)
ff:13.5 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Ring to QuickPath Interconnect Link 0 Performance Monitor (rev 07)
ff:13.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Xeon E5/Core i7 Ring to QuickPath Interconnect Link 1 Performance Monitor (rev 07)


lsusb

Bus 002 Device 005: ID 147e:1002 Upek Biometric Touchchip/Touchstrip Fingerprint Sensor
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 8087:07dc Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c534 Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


rfkill list

0: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no


sudo lshw -C network

  *-network                 
       description: Ethernet interface
       product: 82579V Gigabit Network Connection
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 19
       bus info: pci@0000:00:19.0
       logical name: eno1
       version: 06
       serial: 00:90:f5:f2:c0:88
       size: 100Mbit/s
       capacity: 1Gbit/s
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
       configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=3.2.6-k duplex=full firmware=0.13-4 ip=192.168.2.4 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s
       resources: irq:43 memory:fb500000-fb51ffff memory:fb528000-fb528fff ioport:f040(size=32)
  *-network
       description: Wireless interface
       product: Wireless 7260
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 0
       bus info: pci@0000:07:00.0
       logical name: wlp7s0
       version: 73
       serial: fc:f8:ae:0c:88:a7
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
       configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=4.18.0-17-generic firmware=17.948900127.0 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
       resources: irq:46 memory:fb200000-fb201fff
  *-network
       description: Ethernet interface
       physical id: 2
       logical name: docker0
       serial: 02:42:d7:2d:d4:41
       capabilities: ethernet physical
       configuration: broadcast=yes driver=bridge driverversion=2.3 firmware=N/A ip=172.17.0.1 link=no multicast=yes


lsmod

Module                  Size  Used by
rfcomm                 77824  16
ipt_MASQUERADE         16384  1
nf_conntrack_netlink    40960  0
nfnetlink              16384  2 nf_conntrack_netlink
xfrm_user              32768  1
xfrm_algo              16384  1 xfrm_user
iptable_nat            16384  1
nf_conntrack_ipv4      16384  3
nf_defrag_ipv4         16384  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_nat_ipv4            16384  2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
xt_addrtype            16384  2
iptable_filter         16384  1
bpfilter               16384  0
xt_conntrack           16384  1
nf_nat                 32768  1 nf_nat_ipv4
nf_conntrack          131072  6 xt_conntrack,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_nat,ipt_MASQUERADE,nf_nat_ipv4,nf_conntrack_netlink
libcrc32c              16384  2 nf_conntrack,nf_nat
br_netfilter           24576  0
bridge                159744  1 br_netfilter
stp                    16384  1 bridge
llc                    16384  2 bridge,stp
aufs                  245760  0
overlay                94208  0
cmac                   16384  1
intel_rapl             20480  0
bnep                   20480  2
x86_pkg_temp_thermal    16384  0
intel_powerclamp       16384  0
nvidia_uvm            757760  0
coretemp               16384  0
nvidia_drm             40960  2
nvidia_modeset       1048576  16 nvidia_drm
kvm_intel             208896  0
kvm                   626688  1 kvm_intel
nvidia              14376960  741 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset
snd_hda_codec_hdmi     49152  1
snd_hda_codec_realtek   106496  1
irqbypass              16384  1 kvm
snd_hda_codec_generic    73728  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel          40960  8
snd_hda_codec         126976  4 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek
mxm_wmi                16384  0
arc4                   16384  2
wmi_bmof               16384  0
snd_hda_core           81920  5 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek
crct10dif_pclmul       16384  0
snd_hwdep              20480  1 snd_hda_codec
crc32_pclmul           16384  0
snd_pcm                98304  4 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
ghash_clmulni_intel    16384  0
pcbc                   16384  0
drm_kms_helper        172032  1 nvidia_drm
snd_seq_midi           16384  0
btusb                  45056  0
snd_seq_midi_event     16384  1 snd_seq_midi
btrtl                  16384  1 btusb
aesni_intel           200704  2
drm                   458752  5 drm_kms_helper,nvidia_drm
btbcm                  16384  1 btusb
btintel                20480  1 btusb
iwlmvm                376832  0
bluetooth             552960  41 btrtl,btintel,btbcm,bnep,btusb,rfcomm
aes_x86_64             20480  1 aesni_intel
ipmi_devintf           20480  0
mac80211              802816  1 iwlmvm
snd_rawmidi            32768  1 snd_seq_midi
ecdh_generic           24576  2 bluetooth
iwlwifi               299008  1 iwlmvm
snd_seq                65536  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
input_leds             16384  0
joydev                 24576  0
crypto_simd            16384  1 aesni_intel
ipmi_msghandler       102400  2 ipmi_devintf,nvidia
cryptd                 24576  3 crypto_simd,ghash_clmulni_intel,aesni_intel
snd_seq_device         16384  3 snd_seq,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi
fb_sys_fops            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
glue_helper            16384  1 aesni_intel
snd_timer              32768  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
syscopyarea            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
sysfillrect            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
rtsx_pci_ms            20480  0
intel_cstate           20480  0
sysimgblt              16384  1 drm_kms_helper
snd                    81920  27 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi
intel_rapl_perf        16384  0
memstick               16384  1 rtsx_pci_ms
cfg80211              667648  3 iwlmvm,iwlwifi,mac80211
serio_raw              16384  0
soundcore              16384  1 snd
mac_hid                16384  0
mei_me                 40960  0
wmi                    24576  2 wmi_bmof,mxm_wmi
video                  45056  0
mei                    98304  1 mei_me
tpm_infineon           20480  0
lpc_ich                24576  0
sch_fq_codel           20480  6
parport_pc             36864  0
ppdev                  20480  0
lp                     20480  0
parport                49152  3 parport_pc,lp,ppdev
ip_tables              28672  2 iptable_filter,iptable_nat
x_tables               40960  5 xt_conntrack,iptable_filter,ipt_MASQUERADE,xt_addrtype,ip_tables
autofs4                40960  2
dm_mirror              24576  0
dm_region_hash         20480  1 dm_mirror
dm_log                 20480  2 dm_region_hash,dm_mirror
hid_generic            16384  0
usbhid                 49152  0
hid                   122880  2 usbhid,hid_generic
rtsx_pci_sdmmc         24576  0
psmouse               151552  0
firewire_ohci          40960  0
ahci                   40960  3
e1000e                249856  0
firewire_core          65536  1 firewire_ohci
libahci                32768  1 ahci
rtsx_pci               65536  2 rtsx_pci_sdmmc,rtsx_pci_ms
crc_itu_t              16384  1 firewire_core


dmesg | egrep 'blue|firm'

[    0.034106] Spectre V2 : Enabling Restricted Speculation for firmware calls
[    0.697590] GHES: APEI firmware first mode is enabled by WHEA _OSC.
[    4.409890] iwlwifi 0000:07:00.0: loaded firmware version 17.948900127.0 op_mode iwlmvm
[    4.516106] Bluetooth: hci0: Intel Bluetooth firmware file: intel/ibt-hw-37.7.10-fw-1.80.2.3.d.bseq
[    4.734065] Bluetooth: hci0: Intel firmware patch completed and activated


sudo systemctl status bluetooth

● bluetooth.service - Bluetooth service
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Mon 2019-04-22 09:30:32 +03; 9min ago
     Docs: man:bluetoothd(8)
Main PID: 1027 (bluetoothd)
   Status: "Running"
    Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/bluetooth.service
           └─1027 /usr/lib/bluetooth/bluetoothd

Nis 22 09:30:32 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: Bluetooth management interface 1.14 initialized
Nis 22 09:31:18 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.97 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource
Nis 22 09:31:18 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.97 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink
Nis 22 09:37:57 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: F0:1D:BC:E8:DF:82: error updating services: Device or resource busy (16)
Nis 22 09:37:58 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: F0:1D:BC:E8:DF:82: error updating services: Device or resource busy (16)
Nis 22 09:37:58 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: F0:1D:BC:E8:DF:82: error updating services: Device or resource busy (16)
Nis 22 09:37:59 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: F0:1D:BC:E8:DF:82: error updating services: Device or resource busy (16)
Nis 22 09:37:59 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: F0:1D:BC:E8:DF:82: error updating services: Device or resource busy (16)
Nis 22 09:38:00 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: F0:1D:BC:E8:DF:82: error updating services: Device or resource busy (16)
Nis 22 09:38:00 e-pc bluetoothd[1027]: F0:1D:BC:E8:DF:82: error updating services: Device or resource busy (16)

Empat

[mention=645608]@tyko[/mention]

Aşağıdaki komutla bluetooth servisini başlatabilirsiniz.

sudo systemctl start bluetooth

Aşağıdaki komutla bluetooth servisinin her sistem açılışında çalışmasını sağlayabilirsiniz.

sudo systemctl enable bluetooth
Everything for me is just Peace - Love - Coding. Also, as they say: I am a programmer, I have no life!

tyko

Teşekkür ederim size tek başınıza forumu sırtlamışsınız. Deneme yanılmayla kurulum yaptığım için bu komutlar işe yaramadı bende gidip son kez(umarım) format atıp temiz kurulum yaptım. Şuanda Bluetooth sıkıntısız bir şekilde açılıyor şimdiki problemim ise farem ile otomatik bağlantı kurmuyor. Manuelden kurulum yaparkende Bluetooth kimi zaman bug'a giriyor ki aygıtların hiç birine bağlanmıyor. Win10'daki gibi otomatik bağlantı nasıl yaptırabilirim?

tyko

[ÇÖZÜLDÜ] Sorunu çözdüm.

Github deposu: https://github.com/dootec/yelloz

Bu sorunu yaşayanlar yazdığım betik ile kurulumu rahatça yapabilirler.

Aşağıdaki komutları sırası ile çalıştırın.

sudo apt install curl
sudo curl -sL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dootec/yelloz/master/yelloz | sudo bash -s 1 -y


Ardından bilgisayarınızı yeniden başlatın, aksi taktirde değişiklikler kullandığınız süre boyunca geçerli olmayacaktır.
sudo reboot

Ubuntu 19.04 ile test edilmiştir. Ubuntu temelli diğer dağıtımlarda da çalışacaktır.

Empat

Alıntı yapılan: tyko - 13 Haziran 2019 - 10:28:57
[ÇÖZÜLDÜ] Sorunu çözdüm.

Github deposu: https://github.com/dootec/yelloz

Bu sorunu yaşayanlar yazdığım betik ile kurulumu rahatça yapabilirler.

Aşağıdaki komutları sırası ile çalıştırın.

sudo apt install curl
sudo curl -sL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dootec/yelloz/master/yelloz | sudo bash -s 1 -y


Ardından bilgisayarınızı yeniden başlatın, aksi taktirde değişiklikler kullandığınız süre boyunca geçerli olmayacaktır.
sudo reboot

Ubuntu 19.04 ile test edilmiştir. Ubuntu temelli diğer dağıtımlarda da çalışacaktır.
Çözümü paylaştığınız için teşekkürler.

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